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Monday, 18 May 2015

Let's have a little recap, shall we?

Okay, here's the sequence

I'm guessing it's PMT day Chez Textusa, as she is even more snarly and paranoid than usual. Having already been extremely rude to one poster, she then has a go at another who is trying to help her satnav herself out of the farm track she has driven down.

Something I recall from sage - it's not always as simple as "What was the computer counting".

Sage offers a very special feature - the ability to construct any report conceivable which is what gives them such a competitive edge. The package comes with a suite of reports that can be either used or modified for each individual user. When you use the report generator it takes you into a labyrinth of tables and fields where it's very easy to choose the wrong option and produce a garbage report.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2mezD2jCd8

You can sometimes tell which fields were added by simply looking at the report headers - if they're not lined up or if the spacing seems wrong. In this example if the field "type" wasn't taken from the right table or of the joins weren't done correctly it will produce incorrect totals.
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  1. Insane,

    This is from a personal uk.linkedin.com page, from a Gustavo Cxxx, a C# Web Developer:

    Help desk & Webmaster
    Profitus
    May 1998 – June 2000 (2 years 2 months)Lisbon Area, Portugal

    Profitus was a retail management software house, which developed vertical products for businesses such as shops, restaurants and hotels.

    • Providing first and second line support to Profitus’ software resellers
    • Communicating with the development team in order to solve issues and improve Profitus’ products
    • Creating, setting up and maintaining the company’s website (HTML / CSS / JavaScript / Hosting / DNS register)
    • Producing website activity statistics
    • Managing the company’s email accounts and aliases

    It seems that Profitus is made in Portugal and doesn't use sage.

    Not seeing what's the use to pay for a software that "takes you into a labyrinth of tables and fields where it's very easy to choose the wrong option and produce a garbage report" and where a "suite of reports that can be either used or modified for each individual user".

    Or to put in another words, pay to have unreliable reports produced (as anyone can intervene in it) with totals different from what is listed and so handing out to their employees information that may or not be true ir even make any sense.
  2. Ocean Club used a programme that is the anti programme. All is explained.

    Shaherazade
I have left that comment in from Shaherazade, as she is so dim it reminds me I need to buy lightbulbs tomorrow 
  1. Textusa,

    I am anon 15:41:00 not Insane.

    I don't know Profitus so I used Sage as an example because it's a popular system. My point is that many systems facilitate report generators and I have used them many times in the course of my work. What we don't know is if there was a similar reporting tool on Profitus.

    If I buy a system without a report generator it means that I have to pay out £££ for each custom report that I require. If I buy a system with a report generator I just need to pay an initial fee for training and I can have all the reports that I want. I can then lock down the options so only trained users can modify reports.

    I've worked in systems, programming and data for over 30 years and seen many instances where reports don't "add up". There is usually a very rational and logical explanation.

    My earlier comment wasn't aimed at poking holes in your thesis - just to share with you what I know. If you'd rather I refrain from commenting in the future then I will do so.

    Bosede.
Nice, friendly reply, yes? 







  1. I have used Sage and Access as well as other in house systems to produce reports and NONE of them produced anomalies.... both reported what was asked of the software and had criteria that could be selected to suit the reason for the report. If the software isn’t capable of producing a report as required the operative would not request it. We used Sage at our business and reports were pulled off for various reasons such as for the bookeeper, for the accountant, the bank, marketing purposes, re-ordering stock and very importantly for producing invoices for customers.

    A huge organisation like MW would not use crap software and I’m surprised Profitus doesn’t come after them for trashing the reputation of their software.
Oh do piss off, halfwit 
  1. Bosede,

    Our apologies. As your intial comment had clearly the intention to misinform we confused you with Insane.

    Intention that continued with the comment that followed.

    We're sure you will understand the reason for this confusion, if you're not Insane that is.

    It was fascinating to read this phrase: "I've worked in systems, programming and data for over 30 years and seen many instances where reports don't "add up"."

    But as you say "There is usually a very rational and logical explanation".

    Exactly.

    We think we have given the very rational and logical explanation as to why data listed does not tally up with the totals added up by the computer. And because it is a computer, it always adds up correctly what it is told to add up.

    Thank you.
Thank you?? Oh not at all.  Strange, it sounds an awful lot like ''Go fuck yourself'', doesn't it? 

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